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Old 11-26-2007, 04:04 AM
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HandMarks: Firstly, I second what Amber said--interesting way to jump in and say hi.

You have some valid points. I actually agree with your take that the biological father does have a right to be concerned for his child's welfare, even if his concern is misguided. Happens all the time in custody cases.

However, I think, perhaps since you are new, you are missing the reality that for many members here, Veronica is not merely a spanking model on the screen; she is a friend in the real, physical world. Many people here have met her in person, have done play with her, have done videos with her, are aware of all the hard work put in and obstacles jumped to get her site off the ground, and consider her a friend, in the vanilla sense, beyond any spanking involvement. People are concerned for her because they know her, not just because she's a spanko.

The implications here that affect everyone are that a child is involved, which cuts straight to those of us who are parents, and that she was outed in a vindictive way by a third party, something which could conceivably happen to anyone here. And that was made clear from the very first post.

I welcome you to the site, and I hope you will continue to contribute. You are certainly entitled to your personal views. Just tread carefully when it comes to delicate situations with which you are unfamiliar.
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Old 11-25-2007, 07:33 AM
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I am so sorry to hear of your troubles. There is nobody I know of who is LESS deserving of such treatment. Your ex and his "friend" are cowards and idiots.

One question: Though I am so happy to have your pictures in my book, if you need me to remove them to protect you and yours, just say the word.

Again, my sincerest regrets for your troubles. Maybe something will work out.

Paul (Tubaman)
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Old 11-25-2007, 12:10 PM
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Paul-

Thank you for your kind words. I was sorry to hear of your Mother and please know you are also in our thoughts and prayers.

As for the book, yes, no images can appear of me or Dr. D. I making that decision for my child's best interests.

Thank you very much and best to you always-
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Old 11-25-2007, 10:56 PM
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You'll Get Through This

I know you've taken down some sites but that could be perhaps be construed as an admission that you thought there was something wrong with them. I'm sure you've gotten a good advisor... do whatever he/she says. of course.....

This is merely for consideration: I was wondering if maybe you should add back a message to your sites such as: "We are and always have been strongly committedd to the safety and well being of all children. We are adamantlly against the spanking of children. Our websites have been taken down at the moment but in the past they were nothing more or less than a perfecly ethical, moral and legal inestigation into harmless forms of erotic play amongst consenting adults..... etc. etc.."

P.S. I'm sure you could get hundreds of us to swear out affidavits confirming that such statements about you and your websites are true.

Wish there was something folks out here could do to help. If there is let us all know.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:35 AM
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I am really sorry to hear about your hardship. You are doing the right thing to protect what is yours, though it is awful to have to make a decision like that. I sincerely hope that everything works out for you.
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Old 11-21-2007, 02:48 AM
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Veronica, check out the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom online. It's an organization founded by Susan Wright which provides legal assistance for occasions just like this. I believe their website is www.ncsfreedom.org but you can also Google it. I know you're a very formidable woman. Don't let this jackass win.
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Old 11-21-2007, 09:59 PM
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Veronica,

I have been reading bits and pieces in the community for a couple of days now. I, too, am angered by your situation, and want to express both my support and fervent wish that all works out fine. It's too bad that folks don't understand what this is all about, and assume the worst. Please stay strong!

My best,

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Old 11-21-2007, 10:09 PM
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When my ex-mother-in-law tried to ruin me by outting me to my ex I told him straight out how I felt and what this lifestyle was for me. And then I told him to take a look at our 2 boys and tell me if they are unhappy or of they were not taken care of properly. They're both happy and really great kids. Nothing bout this lifestyle puts them our myself in danger. It makes me hapy and makes me feel like a much better person and I believe it helps me to be a much better parent. Luckily my ex had a great open mind and listened. He didnt totally understand it all or agree with it all but did agree on the factor that it wasnt effecting our children in a negative way. Thats what mattered. He said whatever I did in my own private time was my business. He actually enjoyed looking at my blog and some of the pics lol. So it felt really nice to be able to practically rub it in my bitch ex mother-in-law's face. I still watch my back where she's concerned b/c she's proved to me she looks for any reason to cause drama.
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Old 11-22-2007, 12:05 AM
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I sent a private message to Veronica. Hope it helps some more. Glad NCSF was able to provide some assistance so far. Keep up the good fight.
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Old 11-23-2007, 01:20 PM
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A Message from The Spanking Couple

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This week we experienced a very difficult and outrageous event. Veronica was out'ed in a very hostile and disturbing fashion that has affected she and her family very deeply. Part of this "out'ing" included an act of blackmail - threatening that if she did not remove all of our sites and related blogs from the internet something much more serious and bad would happen to her and her family because she is apparently "spreading evil" , "endangering" her family, and “should not be in our community”. Those of you who know Veronica know one thing to be true, she values her family and would protect them from harm above all else. So, to that end and in order to prevent this person(s) from acting on this heinous threat, we have taken our site down until this matter can be investigated further.

While this all sounds crazy and surreal, it is all true. It is unconscionable to those of us who understand that living an alternative lifestyle does not make one a sick, bad, or an unfit person. However, sadly we live in a time where people still do feel that way. There are still many mis-perceptions and prejudices against those who live an alternative lifestyle or have the courage to speak out about an issue that may be controversial. Certainly, thank goodness we do still live in a free country where we do have the right to speak freely and express ourselves openly. However, many individuals do not support that ideal and do not support diversity and acceptance of differences. That is profoundly sad.

Those of you who know us and know what we stand for know that any expression contained on our site was between consenting adults and never ever would we condone the endangerment of a child or the spanking of a child. We do not believe in that nor have we ever condoned or supported it! We do not believe in exposing children to adult material or spanking and never have.

Psychological research has shown clearly that there is no evidence that a consenting adult engaging in an alternative life-style is psychologically ill or unable to be a fit and healthy parent and person. There is no connection in psychological research between living an alternative life-style and being an abusive or unfit parent. However, uneducated and uninformed people still believe that to be true. Very sad.

The person or parties doing this remain unknown at this time, and are carefully remaining anonymous. However, since these threats to Veronica are serious and could cause damage to a minor should they chose to act on their threats we have notified local authorities in the computer and hate crime divisions and are consulting with attorneys. Needless to say this is a serious matter and will be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law by criminal and civil means. I have personally called in some favors from associates in the intelligence community and feel confident the perpetrator of this cowardly act will be identified.

Needless to say Veronica is devastated and overwhelmed. Because of this heinous act we are taking a hiatus from our sites in order to consult with attorneys and experts in this area to decide a course of action.

It is a sad truth that many people still perceive spanking as some sort of fetish that is sick and makes us unfit people and/or parents if we participate in it. One of the reasons we started our site was to show that this is a common and everyday fetish that many individuals and couples enjoy as consenting adults that is not sick or wrong. We will continue to stand strong in our belief in the basic civil rights in this great country we have the privilege to live in.

We thank you for all of your support and understanding during this very difficult time. We simply ask for you patience and understanding. We have always provided superior customer service and will continue to do so. We will make this right to our loyal members and supporters. We know you may need to contact us and may do so at: www.tsccafe.com or through the webmaster@thespankingcouple.com.

Faithfully Yours,
Daniel

For more information on this topic, please visit The National Coalition for Sexual Freedom at: http://www.ncsfreedom.org
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