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Old 09-10-2007, 10:51 AM
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My, she's looking pretty well for someone who's been prowling the internet for money under the guise of dying and needing help meeting her healthcare expenses.

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I tend to agree with Chris. Whatever my thoughts on Miss Spades, it is bad when anyone gets busted doing what we do whether they be proffesional or not, it reflects on our whole lifestyle and we need to learn to stick together if we ever hope to achive sexual equality.
~Ian www.TheLondonTanners.com

I don't think we should ever condone or support fraudulent behavior, whether it be in our lifestyle or not. Because then that behavior reflects on us as a community. We don't have to denounce what they did to denounce the way they went about doing it.

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Hey all,
I mean, what about the professionals in the spanking scene, some of which are friends. There are those who find it difficult to get their spanking needs met and therefore seek out pros, both top and bottom. I would hate to see a crackdown on these people.
The "professionals" I know do their work within the law that governs their kinds of business.

In public interviews prior to all of this, she admitted to defrauding the spanko community as a fake, admitted to making thousands upon thousands of dollars in doing it, slammed the community in the process calling it 'sick' among other words and then feigned terminal illness (her myspace page was one place I saw it) to defraud people of even more money.

Being proven liars, I have a hard time believing Jake when he claims Katie did nothing illegal and 'threw the guy out'. If the cops were conversing with her through electronic means, I am sure they have the conversations that implied either directly or indirectly that 'extra' services were available for an additional fee. Also, with prostitution stings, the transaction and agreement has to take place before the arrest happens. That falls under prostitution which, like it or not, is illegal in most areas. I think the other stuff mentioned in the news stories ("dungeon" "S&M", "sex toys", etc) just made the story more sensational.

Someone mentioned something on another forum, which I found to be a good point. There is a difference in how the law extends to individual activity and to commercial activity. Even charging for spanking services, or any service in the vanilla world, and making it a 'business' comes with laws governing those businesses. With certain businesses come zoning laws, tax laws, and when/how one can operate. In many locales, businesses considered of an 'adult' nature have laws applying to them apart from normal business laws. In some places it is illegal entirely. Many places that are rented (an apartment, for instance) can not be used to run or carry out business activities unless there is a specific contract that deems it alright to do so. And even then, local zoning laws can override that.

I can't run a daycare in my home unless I meet certain criteria under the law - and I must report my income.

I sell spanking erotica through my website and another commercial website. The money I generate is reported to the IRS. That's the law. What I do in this regard to make extra income is not illegal - but dodging the law in order to do it *is*.

In my opinion, this is not a matter of individual right, but a matter of business law. And illegal activity (prostitution) as alluded to in reports. The news never tells the whole story, so none of us can really make a fully informed judgment on whether the arrest was unjust or not. But just looking at their past behavior of manipulative and downright fraudulent activity, I doubt very seriously the police arrested them for simply being kinky.

IMO, it's not the cops who create the 'black eye' - it's people like Katie and Jake who give the unfair impression that our community can not be trusted by simple association. It kills me that people are still willing to believe that they are being truthful in that they 'did nothing', simply because they are (supposedly) "one of us". That's like saying OJ should get off because of his skin color.

I hope they dig further and find out about all their fraud. I hope the IRS and attorney general are sicced on them.

ps - when I find the links to the interviews, I will post them. I didn't save them, but I have a source who knows where all this stuff is at!

sarah

Last edited by sarah thorne; 09-10-2007 at 01:23 PM.
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