[Billy Wizz]

Hi dena and Kyra

I know, what you mean dena about laughing at the question. And you are right some extent it one of those "what came first the chicken or the egg" questions that doesn't have a real answer. Maybe in a moment of madness I thought it would something interesting to discuss.

I think my opinion is similar to yours dena .

I see it as a specialisation of BDSM. It is clearly part of the Dominance and Submission scene but it seems to draw a different crowd of people some of which feel uncomfortable with main stream BDSM. Like you say these people have their own habitual inclination to the spanking scene and the spanking scene alone making it a kink in it own right.

I'm one of those people that has that been into the spanking scene since I can't remember when, but when I first used the internet spanking sites simply didn't exist and the only place that my kink fitted into was the few BDSM sites that were then about. It seemed natural to join one of these. Thankfully I seemed to fit in to there little world with no problem at all and found extentions to my spanking kink. Being on BDSM sites certainly broadened my thinking and allowed me to pick and choose what I liked and didn't like in the BDSM scene. It was only with the formation of usernet group alt.sex.spanking that spanking started to get it's own identity on the internet and early sites like this came along. So I guess that why I see the Spanking and BDSM as similar. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble.

Turning to Kyra's point.

The Master/Mistriss and slave side of BDSM fits into the Spanker/spankee relationship of the Spanking scene. Although there is no real slave themes, i.e I don't think many, if any, spankers would order their spankee to kneel at there feet while they watch TV etc, there is an understanding between a Spanker and a Spankee that there are rules and boundaries that once crossed can result in a spanking. So there are rules and conventions about expected behaviour just as there is in a Master/Mistriss and slave relationship in BDSM. They are just not as extreme.

The one thing I would say there is a more fun side to Spanking that you often see at spanking parties that doesn't seem to exist as much in BDSM. BDSM seems much darker and more controlling.

Billy