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Kate 09-23-2007 10:45 AM

Yes we are, but it's only because one small part crossed the line that is not ok even in fantasy. Just call it an "oops" and take it from there. Some things just aren't ok. I don't hold anything personal against you. Keep writing. Keep posting

sicko26us 09-23-2007 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate (Post 5986)
Yes we are, but it's only because one small part crossed the line that is not ok even in fantasy. Just call it an "oops" and take it from there. Some things just aren't ok. I don't hold anything personal against you. Keep writing. Keep posting


Thanks for being understanding, and I can definetly fix this but I need to know exactly where the line is so in future stories and can get as close as possible without crossing it. Where did I go wrong? Was it the M/F fully nude part? Or was it just the complete nudity that is unacceptable? Here are a few questions I need answered before I can write more.

Would the Level three spanking be acceptable if the same sex parent gave the spanking M/M or F/F? Like is suggested in part two.

If the answer to the above no, can I have the spankee drop there underwear for a bare bottom level two?

Kate 09-23-2007 12:33 PM

Nothing wrong with nude when it's adults. Nude child/adolescent, anything remotely resembling that crosses the lines. Nudity between adults--ok. Adolescent bare ass--I guess you can consider okay on the site. I think anything else crosses an unacceptable line. Some stories here have teens getting bare bum spankings. I guess you can ask for feedback from someone else since my stories are mostly adult--and sometimes get a little rough.

aurora 09-23-2007 03:42 PM

Okay, the thing is, if you're referring to a juvenile spanking, it has to be in terms of pure discipline, and asexual. Yes, it's true, a lot of people regress in their heads to a juvenile place when they're fantasizing, hence the whole "Daddy/Mommy" appeal, but this isn't in your head. It's here for the whole world to see, as well as very UN-understanding Feds, and you need to be very careful how you print the details.

Nudity as directly related to the spanking would be okay, pretty much just meaning a bared bottom. There's no need or direct purpose for any other exposure from the disciplinary perspective, so it must be in a sexual context. I'm always well aware that some people are into humiliation and believe it plays a role, but it's just inappropriate when demanding such explicit exposure of a child. It's humiliating enough for any child just knowing they're about to be spanked, and maybe having their bottom bared, too, without forced exposure of breasts or genitals. NUDE = SEX, plain and simple. It crosses that creep line when you talk about nude interactions between children and parental figures because it reads as incestuous.

Obviously, the focus point of your story is that "level three" spanking. That's the penultimate threat and the inherent climax of the storyline. You just need to be careful about how you approach it. Personally, I wouldn't even want to see a college-aged daughter forced naked to be punished by her father. I suppose being a step-father removes some of the incestuous tones, but how many people can we trust to draw a distinction there, and does it really matter? Maybe the wife has signed such a contract as well, and she's the only one really subject to the "level 3" treatment. He said the daughter was too young for the paddle, maybe there's an unspoken argument there that the children DEFINITELY aren't ready for "level 3". Maybe the "level 3" was written into the contract just to be the strongest deterrent imaginable, and the parents don't really have any intent on carrying that far. Then, maybe the daughter (or her brother) does something really outrageous and the contract bluff gets called when they don't carry through with that penultimate threat... Perhaps it's the boyfriend or girlfriend that steps in and decides to enforce it.

See? You don't need to stop, you just need to be aware of what you're typing and creative in sidestepping the biggest taboos.

sarah thorne 09-23-2007 04:12 PM

I am one who does not have a problem with parental spanking in stories.

However, I believe that nude spanking of adolescents (or even children) is actually unrealistic. Furthering this theory, they have their legs spread wide apart while being spanked, which adds a sexual connotation to it. So, if you're going for realistic parental discipline, I would recommend taking that out of the story.

Otherwise, I actually like the theme.

sarah

CaliSpanker 09-23-2007 04:18 PM

Not a fan of the nudity stuff in childhood discipline...or the showle step-parent as physical disciplinarian. But that is on a personal level, As a writer I hate to see anyone limited on creative expression so maybe it's just a case of understanding the audience.

Like the style just not a fan of the content.

sicko26us 09-23-2007 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aurora (Post 5992)
Maybe the "level 3" was written into the contract just to be the strongest deterrent imaginable, and the parents don't really have any intent on carrying that far.


Thanks for your long reply,

Quoted above is the direction I am going to go with the stories, the level three will just be a threat that will never be acted out.

Adelina 09-24-2007 08:51 PM

I don't care to see anyone under age 18 involved in spanking stories, but it's because such stories are, for me, a form of pornography, something I seek out to fire up the passion. If I start reading and find children in the plot, it sort of kills the mood.

In this particular case, it's the full nudity which is the problem. A father who actually did such a thing could conceivably be prosecuted for a sex crime, -especially- since it is a stepfather and not a natural father, i.e. one who has not raised this girl from infancy, but has just now stepped into her life as she is starting to blossom as a woman. Ew.

As someone else stated earlier, if there are underage characters, make sure there is absolutely no sexual undertone whatsoever, strictly discipline. I wouldn't even include such a thing in the contract. It's not realistic, but it is icky.

If the girls on the receiving end of the contract were over 18 and gave consent of their free will, that would make a difference.

beautifulcreature 12-01-2007 02:31 PM

awesome story sicko...
 
i like all your storie great job.
reminds me of some of my younger days


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